Corona Anatine Lecture Transcript Mar 11 2012


The lecture today went quite well. Corona was unaware of daylight savings time though, so she was an hour late, which was kind of expected (everything in SL was late today). So, instead, I held an impromptu live poetry reading. It went very well. More people were able to come to it than the lecture. But, anyway, the lecture transcript can be found below:

[13:03] Chraeloos: Thanks to everyone for coming! I’ll ask that all comments and questions are held until after the lecture, when we open the floor for discussion. If you like what you hear and/or want to support in-world events, feel free to tip. The tip jar is the globe in the centre of the fireplace.
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[13:03] Chraeloos: Also, we just released a new magazine! You can download it for free here: http://www.epithetandsynonym.biz/easmagazine.htm
[13:03] Chraeloos: Thanks Corona, it’s all yours 🙂
[13:06] Corona Anatine: ok a bit of background first
[13:06] Corona Anatine: this talk only looks at the developments up to the end of the Old Kingdom
[13:07] Corona Anatine: and will need breaking down into more than one week
[13:07] Corona Anatine: Developments in Ancient Egyptian funerary structures and mummification procedure to the end of the sixth dynasty
[13:07] Corona Anatine: I will assume people know the difference between upper and lower egypt -if not say now
[13:08] Karlingo Lorefield: raises hand
[13:08] Corona Anatine: and i will briefly cover that
[13:08] Karlingo Lorefield: “im naive”
[13:08] Karlingo Lorefield: had my head stuck in japanese books all my life, so go ahead pls.
[13:08] Rhiannon of the Birds: Yeah, upper is lower down on the map and lower is higher up on the map
[13:08] Corona Anatine: ok upper egypt is the region of the nile valley as far north as the delta
[13:08] Corona Anatine: lower is the delta region
[13:08] Karlingo Lorefield: ok
[13:08] Corona Anatine: the two were originally different nations
[13:09] Corona Anatine: that were unified at the start of the Old Kingdom
[13:09] Corona Anatine: this would be long after the civilization i postulate as existing several millennia earlier
[13:10] Corona Anatine: although some relics form then may have still be around
[13:10] Corona Anatine: but this This is the historical / archaeology based Ancient Egypt
And I will concentrate on the standard model in the main
[13:10] Corona Anatine: The differential preservation of tombs and contents due to their desert location away from valuable agricultural land together with the collection preferences of early antiquarians; has meant that most surviving material culture of ancient egypt is related to or derived from funerary structures.
[13:11] Corona Anatine: In contrast to domestic settlement structures which were normally along the Nile have been built over by the many centuries of subsequent development.
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[13:12] Corona Anatine: The quantity of funerary remains and structures; together with the undisturbed nature of non valuable materials, and the environmental equilibrium allow the phases of tomb development to be traced traced from earliest times.
[13:12] Corona Anatine: The tomb development history reveals a complex sequence up to the first intermediate period with many changes stemming from political manoeuvring between the king and the priesthood over royal attempts to retain distinctiveness of burial .
[13:13] Corona Anatine: In the early period through to the Old kingdom there were continual changes and improvements in tomb construction, culminating in the building of the pyramid tombs of the sixth dynasty,
[13:14] Corona Anatine: After which the first intermediate period saw a major break in social stability with endemic tomb robbery. To which the Egyptians of the Middle kingdom responded to by turning more to use of hidden rock cut tombs.
[13:15] Corona Anatine: The earliest inhabitants of Egypt were Neanderthals [ according to one source anyway]
[13:15] Corona Anatine: [ which i don’t have details of – this was written from a univ library back in 95]
[13:15] Corona Anatine: Of these few graves are known as , even thought burying their dead, they did so without definite ceremony or grave goods . Of graves in the main period of predynastic burials , most come from Upper Egypt, with few known from central areas of Lower/delta Egypt, possibly because the bodies were sunk into marsh pools, or exposed for scavenger consumption.
[13:16] Corona Anatine: perhaps even devoted to such animals in a similar way to Himalayan sky burial.
[13:16] Corona Anatine: [ for example this recent item of news=
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-enterprise-grisly-theory-holy-land-mystery-070634051.html ]
[13:18] Corona Anatine: The early Nile dwellers clearly believed in an afterlife, as predynastic burials often contain grave goods . moreover the bodies themselves were frequently wrapped in skins or matting, and crouched on the left side as if asleep and awaiting the rebirth often alluded to in texts of much later date.
[13:19] Corona Anatine: Only the higher status members of the community received formal burial, and according to one source few women and children.
[13:19] Corona Anatine: It is unlikely however that the majority of the dead were merely thrown into the fields or the river ‘as the beasts of the field that perish” as they would not have been perceived as inferior by their social peers, whatever the views of the higher classes.
[13:20] Corona Anatine: Inhumation in fields and cemeteries attached to settlements being sufficient to account for their lack of survival
[13:20] Corona Anatine: body exposure of the sort in the news item would also account for this
[13:21] Corona Anatine: assuming that the practice was the same further south
[13:21] Corona Anatine: Richer burials surviving more often due to placement in the desert nearer to the west, the lands of the gods and ancestors [ probably the same thing in many cases]
[13:22] Corona Anatine: While no two graves were ever identical in all respects, they do shows trends in general
[13:22] Corona Anatine: The typology of graves and associated goods/customs of predynastic burials are conventionally divided into 3 main phases
[13:22] Corona Anatine: Badarian 5500 to 4000 BCE
[13:23] Corona Anatine: .
[13:23] Corona Anatine: Amratean / Naqada I 4000 to 3500 BCE
[13:23] Corona Anatine: .
[13:23] Corona Anatine: Gerzean / Naqada II 3500 to 3100 BCE
[13:23] Corona Anatine: .
[13:23] Corona Anatine: [Calibrated 14C dates]
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[13:24] Corona Anatine: The graves rarely have any surviving superstructure, and where existing it is limited to a simple piled tumulus of sand or gravel backfill
[13:24] Corona Anatine: Badarian graves of Upper Egypt were usually sited on a low bank alongside a dry and often small wadi.
[13:25] Corona Anatine: At first shallow, burials deepened to around 1 metre as the Badarian progressed
[13:25] Corona Anatine: Graves for women were normally oval, those for men rectangular,
[13:25] Corona Anatine: Both dug into the sand or gravel at the desert edge
They were always single occupant pits just large enough for a flexed and tightly contracted unclothed body
[13:26] Corona Anatine: with concave floors, or
[13:26] Corona Anatine: levelled if a wealthier occupant
[13:27] Corona Anatine: Occasionally a layer of clean sand was added
[13:27] Corona Anatine: while some also had a basic wicker palisade set along the sides to retain loose soil
[13:28] Corona Anatine: This basic pit grave effectively persisted in use for the poorest burials right through to the end of the new Kingdom and beyond
[13:29] Corona Anatine: Inhumations were usually loosely wrapped in a reed mat
[13:29] Corona Anatine: linen folds
[13:29] Corona Anatine: or a goat skin
[13:30] Corona Anatine: A similar mat or tray lining the base and partway up the sides which was then folded back over the body and any grave goods
[13:31] Corona Anatine: Normally bodies were buried with the head to west
[13:31] Corona Anatine: although this was not universal west of the Nile
[13:32] Corona Anatine: Female Badarian graves are noticeably larger
[13:32] Corona Anatine: although only males had exclusive cemetery areas [ and then only for some axiomatically]
[13:33] Corona Anatine: and only richer burials had grave gods
[13:33] Corona Anatine: goods*
[13:33] Corona Anatine: at first consisting of a single ceramic cup
[13:34] Corona Anatine: usually placed near the hands or head
[13:34] Corona Anatine: Later the quantity increased, some including models and illustrations of boats
[13:35] Corona Anatine: But most only had pottery and personal items
[13:35] Corona Anatine: in lower Egypt burials were generally closer to dwellings
[13:35] Corona Anatine: eg at merimda
[13:36] Corona Anatine: where an earlier cemetery of Badarian/early Amratean date
[13:36] Corona Anatine: built distant from habitation
[13:36] Corona Anatine: was overlain by settlement expansion
[13:37] Corona Anatine: Cemeteries on unused land were probably fairly common in the earliest periods
[13:37] Corona Anatine: being built over or converted to agricultural use as the population expanded
[13:40] Corona Anatine: The Merimda
[13:40] Corona Anatine: dead were mostly crouched burials
[13:40] Corona Anatine: In reed lined graves but without funerary equipment
[13:41] Corona Anatine: Some graves , mostly of children were dug into house floors inhumed with the head towards the hearth
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[13:42] darcon Xue: 🙂
[13:42] Corona Anatine: In the Amratean / Naqada I graves became larger and progressively deeper
[13:43] Corona Anatine: and some were now protected with a lining of clay brick , wooden boards or wattle-work
[13:43] Karlingo Lorefield: Corona…
[13:43] Karlingo Lorefield: what is wattle-work?
[13:43] Corona Anatine: wicker and daub
[13:43] Karlingo Lorefield: gotcha, thank you.
[13:43] Corona Anatine: like african of celtic british huts
[13:44] Corona Anatine: *or
[13:44] Corona Anatine: Some had a roof of matting supported on wooden poles
[13:44] Corona Anatine: others used stone slabs
[13:44] Corona Anatine: while occasionally richer burials were in rock cut chambers
[13:45] Corona Anatine: With some graves a recess was added , enlarged in later burials
[13:46] Corona Anatine: the recess often concealed by a row of 8-12 tall jars
[13:46] Corona Anatine: arranged on the north side,
[13:46] Corona Anatine: containing burnt offerings ashes and food items
[13:47] Corona Anatine: [ not clear from my notes / essay if it is the recess or the jars that held these]
[13:47] Corona Anatine: the practice continuing until the early Old Kingdom
[13:48] Corona Anatine: the amratean saw development of some multiple burials of 2-5 individuals
[13:48] Corona Anatine: possibly family groups
[13:49] Corona Anatine: There is also evidence suggesting ossary practices
[13:49] Corona Anatine: hands and skulls often being absent
[13:49] Corona Anatine: and replaced with containers of ostrich egg or pottery or laid on or near the body
[13:50] Corona Anatine: Other graves have skeletal elements inverted misplaced or sorted by type
[13:50] Corona Anatine: Missing skulls are also known
[13:50] Corona Anatine: usually from female burials
[13:51] Corona Anatine: Some having the neck placed against the back wall of the grave recess
[13:51] Corona Anatine: in others the skull was placed on a brick or stone pile
[13:51] Corona Anatine: Several bodies reveal a two stage process
[13:52] Gilles Kuhn: you are still speaking of pre dynastic tombs?
[13:52] Corona Anatine: with burial until skeletal
[13:52] Corona Anatine: then disinterred cleaned and dismembered followed by reburial
[13:53] Corona Anatine: Many of these practices continued until late in the old Kingdom
[13:53] Corona Anatine: where they are possibly referred to in the pyramid text expression
[13:53] Corona Anatine: ” place the bones together”
[13:54] Corona Anatine: In the Amratean the number of grave goods also increased
[13:54] Corona Anatine: especially ceramics which were often of poor manufacture
[13:55] Corona Anatine: suggesting production especially for burial use
[13:55] Corona Anatine: The quantity of items led to larger tombs to accommodate the increases
[13:56] Corona Anatine: while the increased wealth in richer burials
[13:56] Corona Anatine: increased the incidence of grave robbing
[13:56] Corona Anatine: resulting in a further deepening of the burial pit to compensate
[13:56] Corona Anatine: until they required several steps down
[13:57] Corona Anatine: In the Gerzean and protodynastic [ Semainean]
[13:57] Corona Anatine: richer graves continued to increase in size
[13:58] Corona Anatine: and become up to 3 metres deep
[13:58] Corona Anatine: with some chambers lined with clay brick or wood
[13:58] Corona Anatine: some also being provided with a wooden roof
[13:59] Corona Anatine: Many bodies were supplied with a thick mud coating or a wooden coffin was used
[14:00] Corona Anatine: at other times the huddled body was placed under or inside a large terracotta vase
[14:00] Corona Anatine: sometimes with a second vase inverted to form a lid
[14:00] Corona Anatine: a method which continued in use up to the fifth Dynasty
[14:00] Corona Anatine: although rare after the third
[14:01] Corona Anatine: The use of such jars suggesting that he dead were now seen as requiring space and/or air in the tomb
[14:02] Corona Anatine: 905 of Gerzean burial were single
[14:02] Corona Anatine: with a greater proportion of child graves
[14:02] Corona Anatine: these were generally richer
[14:02] Corona Anatine: [ presumably the rich had more options to do so]
[14:03] Corona Anatine: and burials of all ages now tended to be wrapped in linen or fibre
[14:03] Corona Anatine: Towards the end of the period store rooms were added to some superstructures
[14:04] Corona Anatine: In the later Old kingdom this type of tomb began to be copied in poor burials
[14:04] Corona Anatine: however this was the maximum reached at the lower end of the social scale
[14:05] Corona Anatine: ok that takes us to the start of the Old kingdom
[14:05] Corona Anatine: so i will continue there next time
[14:05] Bryce Galbraith: thanks Corona!
[14:05] Chraeloos: Great job Corona, thanks!
[14:05] Corona Anatine: ty
[14:05] Rhiannon of the Birds: THANK YOU!
[14:05] Rhiannon of the Birds: THAT WAS AWESOME, AS USUAL
[14:06] darcon Xue: Thank you Corona love 🙂
[14:06] Bryce Galbraith: One question — are most graves to the west of the Nile? I think I remember something about that from a class I had once…
[14:06] Corona Anatine: I think they are yes
[14:06] Corona Anatine: as the land of the ancestors was seen as being to the west
[14:07] Corona Anatine: which may be an indication that they migrated from that area
[14:07] Rhiannon of the Birds: hi Vulcan!
[14:07] Bryce Galbraith: okay… and that’s where the sun sets too… not sure if that is significant or not, but seems like it would…
[14:07] Gilles Kuhn: too could you precise the time of the type of burials style you exposed i presume some of them were pre dynastic as well?
[14:07] Chraeloos: Hi Vulcan
[14:07] Corona Anatine: perhaps settling into the nile valley when the Sahara dried up and became infertile
[14:08] Bryce Galbraith: Corona, there was also a term you used — ossary practices — I’m not familiar with that. What was ossary practices?
[14:08] Corona Anatine: practices associated with bone other than burial
[14:09] Gilles Kuhn: its a form of art which was perfected by the mongols later…
[14:09] Corona Anatine: rearranging the bones in some other place
[14:09] Bryce Galbraith: ah, okay…
[14:10] Corona Anatine: superb avi btw gilles
[14:10] Corona Anatine: very appropriate
[14:10] Gilles Kuhn: i couldn’t resist indeed
[14:10] Bryce Galbraith: 🙂
[14:10] Corona Anatine: lol Anpu himself
[14:10] Gilles Kuhn: Anubis you mean?
[14:10] Chraeloos: lol Gilles, love it
[14:10] Corona Anatine: if you use the greek spelling yes
[14:11] Gilles Kuhn: i do
[14:11] Corona Anatine: anpu was the Kemic spelling
[14:11] Gilles Kuhn: i am not familiar with it
[14:11] Corona Anatine: it was likely pronounced ‘anubis’
[14:12] Corona Anatine: talking of which – one of my pet theories concerns pronunciation/spelling
[14:12] Gilles Kuhn: well the greek have weird pronunciation their sheep didn’t say baaaaah but viiiiiii …..
[14:12] Corona Anatine: concerning ‘Thoth’
[14:12] Corona Anatine: which in the kem is tehuti
[14:13] Corona Anatine: or djeheuti
[14:13] Chraeloos: interesting
[14:13] Corona Anatine: which is possibly pron -Dj-hu- fi-
[14:13] Corona Anatine: or maybe even Dj ho-fa
[14:14] Corona Anatine: lol just a thought i have
[14:14] Corona Anatine: tho curiously
[14:14] darcon Xue: 🙂
[14:14] Corona Anatine: one of the titles of Jehovah is ‘ judge of all the world’
[14:15] Corona Anatine: which was a title of thoth
[14:15] Corona Anatine: as it was thoth who recorded the judgement in the book of judgement
[14:15] Corona Anatine: but i digress
[14:16] Bryce Galbraith: 🙂
[14:16] Bryce Galbraith: well, thanks for the presentation… I should get going.
[14:17] Bryce Galbraith: Just a question — is 1pm going to be the new time? or back to noon next week?
[14:17] Corona Anatine: ok
[14:18] Bryce Galbraith: I suppose I can find out next week too 🙂
[14:18] Chraeloos: Noon next week
[14:18] Bryce Galbraith: ah, okay… thanks 🙂
[14:18] Chraeloos: sorry, am being bombarded with IMs
[14:18] Chraeloos: Yeah, it’ll be noon as regular as long as they happen, unless otherwise noticed.

Corona Anatine Lecture Sun Feb 26 2012


Ancient Technology with Corona Anatine, Sunday Feb. 26, 2012 noonSLT

The next presentation will include Corona’s interpretation of some rock art.

WARNING: This will be fairly graphic/medically clinical
Not suitable for children at the screen or for those of a sensitive imagination as part of the presentation will include a review of the medical effects of nuclear weaponry on the human body.

Corona Anatine Lecture Transcript Feb 19


Today was Part 4 of the invention and evolution of magic, and likely the last in the series. All four transcripts can be found on either blogs and online in the cafe.

I left out all the discussion that occurred after the hour was up, even though it was really great. It will be in the transcript in-world, however, so if you want to read it go pick up the notecard (all the notecards can be found in the square world textured cube on top of the fireplace.

It was a great series, and I’m sorry to any who missed it. The last transcript can be found below:

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Corona Anatine Lecture Feb 5 2012


Today’s lecture went unexpectedly well. There were some technical issues on Corona’s part but she managed to get online and save the lecture in five minutes, so good for her. It ended up going as planned as part two of the invention and evolution of magic and religion. I’m really enjoying the diversity of people we get at these lectures – people from all over the world in all sorts of backgrounds and faiths. It always makes for a very interesting discussion afterwards. And so far all comments have been cordial and constructive, instead of harassing and demeaning. Especially on a topic as controversial as this, I’ve been very impressed. Thanks everyone for making this so much fun and so worth it!

A dozen people came to the lecture today, even with all the technical difficulties. Some new faces came as well – nice to meet you and thanks for coming!

Transcript below:

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Corona Anatine Lecture Jan 22, 2012


Corona presented her lecture on cave and rock art to seven people today. It went very well, and the discussion afterwards went on for forty-five minutes. The question was asked, “why did the cavemen change their drawings (add colour)?”, we talked about uranium and a rock drawing in Australia warning of naturally occurring uranium. A few new people came, but most were repeats. Thanks to everyone for coming! Topic for next week TBA.

[12:09] Chraeloos: Alright, I think we’ll get started. Just so everyone is aware, all comments are to be held until after the lecture, when the discussion takes place. If you comment, and get a warning, and don’t stop, you will be banned (not something I like doing).
[12:10] Chraeloos: So, please be patient, and enjoy the lecture!
[12:10] Corona Anatine: ok right
[12:10] Corona Anatine: i will copy and paste to chat – if anyone has a problem with keeping up then please say
[12:10] Corona Anatine: in im
[12:11] Corona Anatine: i will also pause to move images every so often your patience is appreciated during brief pauses
[12:12] Corona Anatine: ok Rock art and an symbolism
[12:12] Corona Anatine: One of the main problems of interpreting prehistoric art is the difficulty of understanding what the images are meant to represent.
[12:13] Corona Anatine: An illustration of the difficulties is found in Mithen’s ‘Prehistory of the mind’ a search for the origins of art religion and science’ [Phoenix 1996] which illustrates how potentially complex the meanings behind prehistoric art may be.
[12:13] Corona Anatine: The complex and multiple meanings that may be found in the simplest geometric designs found in Palaeolithic art can be illustrated with an example from Koori art.
The social anthropologist Howard Murphy has described how many Koori paintings incorporate a basic geometric template underlying the design; each part of which may encode a series of meanings.
[12:14] Corona Anatine: For example this simple image has two loci of meaning (a) and (b)
[12:15] Corona Anatine: Where a) encodes the meanings:
‘well’ ‘lake’ and ‘vagina’
[12:15] Corona Anatine: while b) encodes the meanings: ‘digging stick ‘ ‘river’ and ‘penis’
[12:15] Corona Anatine: while b) encodes the meanings: ‘digging stick ‘ ‘river’ and ‘penis’
Thus three different interpretations are encoded of a well being dug, of a river flowing in or out of a lake, or of a penetrative sexual act.’
[12:16] Corona Anatine: All three of these are valid interpretations
[12:16] Corona Anatine: But each is appropriate in a different social context’
[12:16] Corona Anatine: Moreover the interpretations may be connected with a single mythic sequence:
[12:16] Corona Anatine: When a kangaroo ancestor finished digging a well with a stick, a female wallaby bent down to drink the fresh water, and the kangaroo seized his opportunity to mount her sexually. The semen flowed out of her body and into the waterhole. Today a river flows into the lake at that place and the kangaroo’s penis was transformed into a digging stick which can be seen as a great log beside the lake.
[12:17] Corona Anatine: This illustrates well the problems with the interpretation of prehistoric art, which is fraught with many potential pitfalls.
[12:17] Corona Anatine: To quote Mithen ‘if such simple geometric designs can encode such complexity of meaning and by doing so express the transformational aspects of ancestral beings, then how much complex meaning might underlie simple geometric designs from the Palaeolithic.’
[12:18] Corona Anatine: or more complex images
[12:18] Corona Anatine: many of which are known worldwide
[12:19] Corona Anatine: Many interpretations have been hypothesized
[12:19] Corona Anatine: Iain Hodder for example spends many chapters debating the ‘language’ of chevron patterns and similar markings on pottery, when it is likely that they merely represent an attempt to reproduce basket weave patterns and the appearance of rope on a non woven material, and the actual patterns themselves lack any language of significance. Breaking down prehistoric artwork to that degree of fineness is akin to what James Churchward was doing last century.
[12:20] Corona Anatine: One useful way round this problem is to assess the art from a psychological perspective.’
[12:20] Corona Anatine: Extensive physiological research has shown that one of the main origins of prehistoric imagery is that of entoptic phenomena
[12:21] Corona Anatine: patterns
 produced within the brain during trance states, often drug induced.
[12:22] Corona Anatine: Many examples of prehistoric art are explainable as drug imagery, often regardless of what they might actually be depicting.
[12:22] Corona Anatine: Many learned ‘authorities’ preferring exciting and ‘sexy’ meanings such as drugs and warfare, to more mundane and plausible explanations involving agriculture.
For example the Khemigyptian ‘Narmer palette’ is seen as a celebration of warfare and conquest, when stronger evidence indicates that it is more likely to be depicting a pastoral based agricultural scene; the ‘long necked creatures’ have been shown to be depictions of the ‘embodiment of the desert wastes’ being tamed by the king. They are certainly not dinosaurs as the creationists claim.
[12:23] Corona Anatine: A case in point is the [in[famous ‘theories’ of Von Daniken
[12:23] Corona Anatine: Where they are of genuine items, [which he himself has admitted is not always the case] Erich Von Daniken’s illustrations for his series of books show many pieces of prehistoric art which probably have a drug related theme.
[12:23] Corona Anatine: [lag occurring in chat ]
[12:24] Corona Anatine: an many of the examples he uses have easily explained interpretation
[12:25] Corona Anatine: Clearly sometimes one must rely on context or informed guesswork, to arrive at a conclusion of what the art is meant to represent.
[12:25] Corona Anatine: relating to drug and trance states is shamanism
[12:25] Corona Anatine: Often the imagery has been assessed as relating to Shamanism or shamanic practices
[12:26] Corona Anatine: two examples from daniken illustrate this
[12:26] Corona Anatine: this is the first
[12:27] Corona Anatine: the image of a shaman wearing a ritual mask is more likley than his interpretation of ‘aliens’
[12:28] Corona Anatine: another of his also has a likely shamanic explanation
[12:28] Corona Anatine: both are from subsaharan africa
[12:29] Corona Anatine: this one is plausibility the image of a spirit leaving the body during a trance state
[12:30] Corona Anatine: again there is no need to cite alien contact
[12:30] Corona Anatine: tho it does not preclude it admittedly
[12:31] Corona Anatine: Many illustrations of figures said to be of shaman wearing horns exist in prehistoric art
[12:31] Corona Anatine: One shaman figure however;
[12:32] Corona Anatine: that of La Troi Freres, is certainly not of a Shaman. It is probably not even of a human. The figure is often shown in books, sometimes with the nearest figures directly in front.
[12:32] Corona Anatine: this one
[12:32] Corona Anatine: the purple will be explained shortly
[12:33] Corona Anatine: however the image is out of context
[12:33] Corona Anatine: The Frontpiece of DK Bhattacharya (1977) supplies a lot better in the way of a
contextual setting
[12:34] Corona Anatine: thus supplied we can start to deconstruct the image into its five animal components within the engraving that are the important lines relevant to the image.
[12:35] Corona Anatine: Firstly a large superimposed horse is readily apparent in the palimpsest,the presence of which shows that the original artists did not consider a horizontal orientation to be significant.
[12:36] Corona Anatine: in the image the horse is shown in blue
[12:37] Corona Anatine: next
[12:37] Corona Anatine: a large horizontal bison or cow transects the ‘shaman’
[12:37] Corona Anatine: Although this image is very shadowy and probably represents one of the earlier engravings of the palimpsest
[12:37] Corona Anatine: These two large animals eliminate some of the engraved lines within the body
[12:38] Corona Anatine: unfortunately only the horse would upload as the other SL said were too large
[12:38] Corona Anatine: so only the coloured images are possible
[12:38] Corona Anatine: tho i will send any by @ if requested
[12:39] Corona Anatine: within the body of the ‘shaman’ especially the ‘bow’ or ‘nosebleed’ of which so much is made in the literature, concerning transcendental states etc.
[12:39] Corona Anatine: the cow is shown in purple here
[12:39] Corona Anatine: Thirdly a bison directly overlies the front of the figure
[12:39] Corona Anatine: here shown in green
[12:40] Corona Anatine: Eliminating the bison engraving removes a good portion of the leg of the figure
[12:40] Corona Anatine: The last two animals, are; a small bison
[12:41] Corona Anatine: which after removal reveals a small horse
[12:41] Corona Anatine: All that is left of the ‘Shaman figure’, are a few random lines
[12:42] Corona Anatine: [ again they would not upload]
[12:42] Corona Anatine: Some of which may be eyes of other animal figures, and the ‘Shaman’ vanishes
[12:42] Corona Anatine: However the La Troi Freres image is an accident of a palimpsest of engraved lines. Where the images are complete and clearly a single image, the task is easier, if it is bourne in mind that what was depicted is usually an accurate representation of something existing in the common experience of the world;
[12:43] Corona Anatine: so that demolishes one of the sacred cows of the rock art studies
[12:43] Corona Anatine: The key point is that it is unwise to interpret the images in modern terms. If the image were made by minds experiencing a hunter gatherer lifestyle, then that type of society can be used as a basis of comparison.
However; if there was a society with relatively advanced technology, then such a comparison would be invalid.
[12:44] Corona Anatine: Searching for relatively advanced technology in the past is perfectly legitimate, however for an example to be valid all other possible meanings must first be assessed
[12:44] Corona Anatine: and as i have shown even the simplest interpretations can be wrong
[12:45] Corona Anatine: in a future presentation i will show my interpretation of some images
[12:45] Corona Anatine: however i am fully aware it is only one of many possible
[12:45] Corona Anatine: possible
[12:45] Corona Anatine: ok questions