Past in monsoon changes linked to major shifts in Indian civilizations

Past in monsoon changes linked to major shifts in Indian civilizations.

I had to comment on this more than just a tweet. Last year, I started studying the evolution of humanity. I came across great evidence suggesting that people originated in India, and then headed to Africa (and everywhere else).

This could turn out to be a very long post, so bear with me. (First off, why bear? Are bears patient? Are they able to put up with things for a long time? Do they play with their food? Hm.)

Ok, for all of you who don’t want to read everything: This, to me, shows that (much later than the emergence of the modern man), India was perfect breeding grounds for evolution, industrially, evolutionary, and genetically.

Now, the heavy stuff.

The Sumerians are considered the earliest civilization. They had the first written language, first schools, etc. But they have a problem. It’s called the Sumerian problem. And that is no one knows where they came from.
Because of Kurt Lambeck we know that the Persian Gulf was dry land between 18,000 and 14,000 BC, or right after the ice age, and the melting is what filled it up. This happened as the tides happen today – often. The Persian Gulf is rumored to have drained and refilled constantly between 14,000 and 7,000 BC. That whole area was probably where they came from, or, as Hancock and Lambeck (two researchers) suggest, “east of Iran”. Know what’s east of Iran? India.
So here I pose the question. Did the Sumerians emerge from India? The Indus Valley Civilization is also unknown for it’s origins. Could they all be the same? I’ve posted a few questions in forums about this, based on DNA of the two, but of course we don’t have enough information about the actual people to say at this point. I hope in the future we will gain more knowledge.
Persian Gulf Floods
The above is scanned from “Underworld: The Mysterious Origins of Civilization” by Graham Hancock. It details the Persian Gulf from 21,300 years ago until 4800 years ago. Of course this is relative as it fluctuated. However this gives a good idea where the travelers could have gone and when. I don’t see why they would have travelled from China or Pakistan along the water’s border. The only place they would have kept to the shore lines would have been India. Pakistanis likely would have headed more North than West and the Chinese wouldn’t have gone that south in the first place.
The other idea is that they could have come from within the Persian Gulf. As far as we know it was a ‘garden of eden’ before it was flooded, the perfect temperature and climate and conditions to house a civilization. That we won’t know though until we search the bottom of the sea. And even then perhaps they still emerged from India, settled in the Gulf, and then travelled North as the water forced them too. We know the earliest Sumerian city was Eridu, which is the most north-western city. So they likely travelled as far north as they were comfortable, and then settled. The waters stopped rising so they were able to create cities close to the water as time passed.
I’d love more information regarding DNA and geological evidence. I’m sure if they traveled somewhere along the way they would have dropped something. We know Egypt and India share seals and other art forms but we don’t know much about the land between the two. What I’m wondering, is based on the linked post from above, does the monsoon differences prove any of this? Does it prove the natural causes for migration?
And, I’ll mention Kumari Kandam, the proposed sunken continent that attached India, Australia, and Madagascar. It’s possible that the monsoons would have assisted in it’s sinking.
What do you think?

Intro Notes for Tues Feb 21 Philosophy and Literature

Topic: Avicenna on life-forms and the universe

Quotes taken from “Philosophy” by Stephen Law.

Avicenna (Ibn Sina) is a scientist and astronomer from Persia in 980-1037. He’s best known for his “Cannon of Medicine”.

He supported the cosmological argument for God’s existence known as the “Kalam argument”.

This argument “begins from the observation, gained from al-Farabi, that all things in the universe are possible beings, meaning that they might not have existed and have no inherent reason for existing.”

“The “essence” of such beings is said to be distinct from their “existence,” so the fact that they exist is not determined by what they are.”

“Therefore they must depend on something else for their existence, and must be caused to exist by something else.”

“However, this cannot be true of everything that exists, otherwise there would be an infinite regress and no ultimate ground for the existence of anything.”

“It follows that there must be a being whose existence is necessary, which is its own cause and sustains everything else in existence.”

Avicenna thought that being was Allah.

Avicenna follows the same idea as the Neo-platonists, in that all being emanates from God as its sustaining cause.”

“This implies that events and actions are predetermined, thus problematizing ideas of moral responsibility and divine justice.”

This isn’t intended to be a conversation about God, Gods, or any being as such. If possible, I’d like to replace the idea of God as whatever you want it to be.

A force, an energy, or even God if you’d prefer. View it how you like. However, I’d like to focus on the rest of the premises Avicenna comes to a conclusion about.

What do you think? I open the floor.

Weekly Update – Feb 18 2012

Alright guys. I know I haven’t been posting reviews for the events. I apologize. I really haven’t had time, with the new job and all.

So – updates! The magazine is coming along nicely. Do let me know if you want your artwork or writing included – either through comments, in SL (Chraeloos), or email ( Otherwise, we are starting a new event, as I posted here, on Thursdays at 4pmSLT. Rhiannon and I are hosting, and it will be held at E&S.

This week held a metric-ton of awesome discussions. I can’t even list all the ones I went to, but there must have been over 15. A particularly awesome one was today at Edutopia, Geekspeak (noonSLT every Saturday). I’ve got the transcript below. We discussed alien life forms and ended up attempting to create a list of criteria for what we would look for on other planets. It was really interesting. Also, Tuesday’s discussion at E&S went really well. We discussed Hume and some of his ideas. I ended up talking as Hume, since his ideas are fairly abstract, and it was a lot of fun and everyone learned a lot. That’s where the idea for everyone taking on a different philosopher or scientist on the Thursday discussions came from.

Sedona Resident was kind enough to put her art up at E&S. There’s six photo’s total of hers, in the upstairs gallery. Please do tip, as she really deserves it, and they aren’t for sale.

I don’t think I wrote about Corona’s lecture last sunday either. Almost 10 people came, and surprisingly not all the same ones from the week before. It was Part 3 of the invention and evolution of religion and magic. Part 4 comes tomorrow at noonSLT, and I hope to see you there!

Upcoming events this week at E&S:

  • Sunday, Feb 19 2012, noonSLT – Corona Anatine Lecture, Part 4 Invention and Evolution of Religion/Magic
  • Tuesday, Feb 21 2012, 10amSLT – Philosophy and Literature, Avicenna on life-forms and the universe.
  • Thursday, Feb 23 2012, 4pmSLT – Philosophy Masquerade
  • Sunday, Feb 26 20120, noonSLT – Corona Anatine Lecture, Topic TBA

Transcript for Geekspeak Saturday Feb 18, 2012:

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